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People on both sides enjoyed the good feeling evident in this study. Subject: The Design of Baptism. Townsend made strong arguments on his side. On the Greek word "eis" his theological skates slipped, and he had to acknowledge that we are baptized into Christ and that we put on Christ in baptism; but he said that we are baptized into him figuratively and that we put him on in baptism ceremonially, as a man puts on his clothes. After a child is born its parents clothe it; that we (Church of Christ) put the clothes on before the child is born; and the Methodists do not clothe it at all, but put a little cap on the top of its head. This admission that we are clothed in baptism proves that we are also born in baptism; for God does not let his children go naked, but clothes them, puts on the wedding garment at birth. (This last statement is Borden)
Brother Borden made the usual arguments made by our brethren. He said that this rule is accepted by the scholarship of the world; when the Greek "eis" stands between a command and a blessing, it makes the command necessary in order to the blessing. He also stated that the Greek word "eis" is always defined "in order to," or its equivalent, and never "because of". He said that Townsend could not bring any proof against these statements, neither would he deny the truthfulness thereof; and, sure enough, this was where Townsend fell - on the "eis". Borden admitted most of Townsend's arguments as to salvation by faith, or through faith, but said that the question is: When does faith save? He said that faith, like baptism, does not save, but God saves upon the conditions. The question is: When does God save?
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E. M. Borden vs Dr. N. R. Townsend (Baptist)
August 21, 1902
(By John Darter, Black Rock, Arkansas)
August 21, 1902
(By John Darter, Black Rock, Arkansas)
People on both sides enjoyed the good feeling evident in this study. Subject: The Design of Baptism. Townsend made strong arguments on his side. On the Greek word "eis" his theological skates slipped, and he had to acknowledge that we are baptized into Christ and that we put on Christ in baptism; but he said that we are baptized into him figuratively and that we put him on in baptism ceremonially, as a man puts on his clothes. After a child is born its parents clothe it; that we (Church of Christ) put the clothes on before the child is born; and the Methodists do not clothe it at all, but put a little cap on the top of its head. This admission that we are clothed in baptism proves that we are also born in baptism; for God does not let his children go naked, but clothes them, puts on the wedding garment at birth. (This last statement is Borden)
Brother Borden made the usual arguments made by our brethren. He said that this rule is accepted by the scholarship of the world; when the Greek "eis" stands between a command and a blessing, it makes the command necessary in order to the blessing. He also stated that the Greek word "eis" is always defined "in order to," or its equivalent, and never "because of". He said that Townsend could not bring any proof against these statements, neither would he deny the truthfulness thereof; and, sure enough, this was where Townsend fell - on the "eis". Borden admitted most of Townsend's arguments as to salvation by faith, or through faith, but said that the question is: When does faith save? He said that faith, like baptism, does not save, but God saves upon the conditions. The question is: When does God save?
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