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For a number of years a congregation in Stockton, Calif. has embraced Sommerism. Its elders oppose located preachers, Christian colleges, orphanages and homes for the aged. As the request for negotiations between this group and the elders which oversee the congregation meeting at Channel and Stanislaus in Stockton , a discussion has been scheduled covering the foregoing subjects. Leroy Garrett, editor of Bible Talk, has been asked to represent those opposed to these matters; this writer has been invited by the elders at Channel and Stanislaus to defend them.
This we are delighted to do for many reasons. 1) We believe that the scriptures abundantly sustain our practice of this respect. 2) We deplore the attacks which are being made upon the schools and benevolent institutions among us. 3) We regard this hobby as the most dangerous and insidious of our time.
Continued report - following the debate:
In retrospect, our most vivid impressions are those of regret and disappointment -- aware of his educational attainments, we had anticipated a real battle; and we had spent long hours in intensive preparation. In he scores of debates in which we had engaged prior to this, we had never met a man who simply refused to make any effort to answer arguments offered. He spent his time, for the most part, reading from college catalogs, church bulletins, field reports, articles by preachers of the present and past, and denominational scholars as Plummer, MacKnight, Lenski and others. Often, the deductions which he attempted to draw were glaring misrepresentations of the sources themselves. An extract from a speech this writer made in 1939 was read in an effort to show that then we opposed Christian colleges. The speech itself was made in the auditorium of Abilene College.
We received the impression that bro. Garrett is without definite convictions on many of the matters discussed. On the located preacher question, for example, at times he would argue that it is the function of the elders to feed the flock; at other times, that any special group which so does usurps the functions of all the members and thus interferes with the mutual edification system he alleges is taught in the New Testament. Occasionally, he would say, "My present view is - - - -, " as though he, too, is aware that he is without rudder or sail in the theological sea. We think we do him no injustice in saying that he fancies himself another A. Campbell whose obligation it is to lead the people back to Jerusalem from Rome, a Moses ordained of God to induce the people of the Lord to flee the fleshpots of Egypt. We predict that following another discussion or two, he will decide that that such is not the best method of propagating his views...and retire from the debating field.
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Guy N. Woods vs Leroy Garrett (located preachers & schools)
March 4, 1954
Stockton, California
(By Guy N. Woods)
March 4, 1954
Stockton, California
(By Guy N. Woods)
For a number of years a congregation in Stockton, Calif. has embraced Sommerism. Its elders oppose located preachers, Christian colleges, orphanages and homes for the aged. As the request for negotiations between this group and the elders which oversee the congregation meeting at Channel and Stanislaus in Stockton , a discussion has been scheduled covering the foregoing subjects. Leroy Garrett, editor of Bible Talk, has been asked to represent those opposed to these matters; this writer has been invited by the elders at Channel and Stanislaus to defend them.
This we are delighted to do for many reasons. 1) We believe that the scriptures abundantly sustain our practice of this respect. 2) We deplore the attacks which are being made upon the schools and benevolent institutions among us. 3) We regard this hobby as the most dangerous and insidious of our time.
Continued report - following the debate:
In retrospect, our most vivid impressions are those of regret and disappointment -- aware of his educational attainments, we had anticipated a real battle; and we had spent long hours in intensive preparation. In he scores of debates in which we had engaged prior to this, we had never met a man who simply refused to make any effort to answer arguments offered. He spent his time, for the most part, reading from college catalogs, church bulletins, field reports, articles by preachers of the present and past, and denominational scholars as Plummer, MacKnight, Lenski and others. Often, the deductions which he attempted to draw were glaring misrepresentations of the sources themselves. An extract from a speech this writer made in 1939 was read in an effort to show that then we opposed Christian colleges. The speech itself was made in the auditorium of Abilene College.
We received the impression that bro. Garrett is without definite convictions on many of the matters discussed. On the located preacher question, for example, at times he would argue that it is the function of the elders to feed the flock; at other times, that any special group which so does usurps the functions of all the members and thus interferes with the mutual edification system he alleges is taught in the New Testament. Occasionally, he would say, "My present view is - - - -, " as though he, too, is aware that he is without rudder or sail in the theological sea. We think we do him no injustice in saying that he fancies himself another A. Campbell whose obligation it is to lead the people back to Jerusalem from Rome, a Moses ordained of God to induce the people of the Lord to flee the fleshpots of Egypt. We predict that following another discussion or two, he will decide that that such is not the best method of propagating his views...and retire from the debating field.
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